Sunday, March 18, 2007

Atlantis : A brief Sketch..

A map showing a supposed location of Atlantis.
From Ignatius L. Donnelly's Atlantis: the Antediluvian World, 1882
Atlantis is a mythical island state,first described by the classical greek philosopher Plato in his dialogues "Timaes" and "Critias".It is supposed to be a naval force which had conquered several regions in the western parts of Europe and Africa.Plato placed its existence 9000 years before his time,so approximately around 9400 BC.Plato wrote about 40,000 words describing this state as a vast city around 9400 BC,layered out in concentric circles with waterways,built with red,black and white bricks,it had elephants roaming the place and a strong cult of bull sacrifice.It supposed to have been completely destroyed in a single night by some kind of natural catastrophe,and sank beneath the ocean.

The possible existence of a genuine Atlantis was actively discussed throughout the classical antiquity, but it was usually rejected and occasionally parodied. While basically unknown during the Middle Ages, the story of Atlantis was rediscovered by Humanists at the very beginning ofmodern times.Plato's description inspired the utopian works of several Renaissance writers, like Francis Bacon's "New Atlantis". To this day, Atlantis inspires today's literature, from science fiction to comic books and movies, its name having become a byword for any and all supposed prehistoric but advanced (and lost) civilisations.

To Quote, Plato himself from "Timaes" :

"Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour. For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent. Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire..."

The 1882 publication of "Atlantis: the Antediluvian World" by Ignatius L. Donnelly stimulated much popular interest in Atlantis. Donnelly took Plato's account of Atlantis seriously and attempted to establish that all known ancient civilizations were descended from its high Neolithic culture,as if Atlantis was the mother culture of cultures like the egyptian or the mayas.According to Ignatius L. Donnelly in his book Atlantis: The Antediluvian World, there is a connection between Atlantis and Aztlan (the ancestral home of the Aztecs).He claims that the Aztecs pointed east to the Caribbean as the former location of Aztlan

Since Donnelly's day, there have been dozens – perhaps hundreds – of locations proposed for Atlantis, to the point where the name has become a generic term rather than referring to one specific (possibly even genuine) location. This is reflected in the fact that many proposed sites are not within the Atlantic at all. Some are scholarly or archaeological hypotheses, while others have been made by psychic or other pseudoscientific means.

IN my next article i will briefly talk about the various locations as proposed by the searchers of atlantic..i prefer to call them searchers because all are not historians or geologists..they are people from diverse feilds having diverse views..but with a single aim in their mind..to "search" for Atlantis..like we are searching wisdom...

Ispirare..

10 comments:

worldofpicco said...

well-written indeed!!..legend has it that atlantis is distantly related to the aztec civilization...anyway,good job!!..waitin for ur next post ms.srimaal!!

Anonymous said...

...floored!!...way 2 go!

Imhotep said...

Well, if u r reading the narrative that Crtias stating in Plato's Timaes, u will find that there one stricking clue about the location of Atlantis has been provided. I am quoting the section here:

" But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island"

Here, please note that Critias is stating about such a strip of water, which he mentions as Atlantic, which is not navigable i.e the place was full of shoals, atleast at the time of Plato. So I think, a look into the contemporary navigational chart or map, if available may provide us more clues about the actual location of this Atlantis, which I think, may be somewhere in the mediterranean.

ANGELFIRE said...

More for the Utopia...

Could the theory of Atlantis being destroyed and sank have originated from the earthquake originating from the Thira earthquake back in 1500 BC? Also, it is possible to emphasize more on the 'utopia'n factor regarding the existence of Atlantis, because it is well known that Plato's writings and most importantly his philosophy were characterized with much ethical and human values, and also he emphasized the ideal commonwealth of Atlantis in Timaeus. So it is highly possible that Atlantis was actually 'imagined' by Plato where everything, especially the human values would exist eternally. But questions still exist.

I think personally that if ever a place called, or rather like Atlantis existed and it sank due to some natural disaster, it would have surely been discovered by now.

ANGELFIRE said...

well said, imhotep...

Imhotep said...

@ angelfire, what u said may be true, but i personally donot believe that Atlantis was just a "myth". And am providing u with the reason. You see, if Atlantis were a mere myth then Plsto would not have defined the location of it in such a detail in timaeus. If Atlantis would have been a mere myth then Plato would have just mentioned, as we do today, and did in the past. And what is that? Well, generally when we talk about any abstract place, we generally mention a rough location like- Somewhere in the Mediterranean or the like. Isnt it? So I do really believe that Atlantis really existed.

Moreoevr, u said that if Atlantis existed, then probably it had been discovered by now. Well, each and every day, new finds are rocking the world of archaeology. So it is quite obvious that Atlantis is awaiting to be unearthed and someday someone would find it.

Ispirare said...

angelfire
dat plato didnt 'imagine' atlantis can be deciphered from the fact that he insisted he got information about it frm solon who had got it frm his expedition to libya..agn,plato while writing these discourses always insisted that this tale had been in his family for ages,and it was he who had first got down to writing it..if you read his discourses ,you will notice that he has written it with a lot of conviction...he must have had some thing which had made him to believe in this atlantis so much..what we shud not forget as well,is the fact that in those times egypt was supposed to be a great civilization,so to say publicly that there lived a civilization,which was even greater that egypt,thousands of years ago would not be such a simple thing..one shud have enuf proof to prove this point,which is so full of controversy..it is like offending usa of today..

Ispirare said...

imhotep
..u made a very plausible point here..but,what plato knew and what he wrote,all have to be seen from his own perspective and his era..the geography,the great influence of astrology ,the technology..everythng was different..about its location, where the place was supposed to be filled with shaols and thus not navigable..as we knw earth keeps changing itself,so nothn can contructively said about what was there and what is left of it..and again,what he actually meant by atlantic ocean can also be different..another thing...plato wrote about atlantis around 500 years after it supposedly happend..so again,things could have changed drastically... about opinion that the location cud hav bn med sea..can be a bit erranous..but agn can not b as well..

maybe my next set of post,which will be on the different pausible locations,which have propped up,and also consequently dismissed..will give you both some more set of queries..there imhotep,you will notice that the locations have not been limited to atlantic ocean,but many different locations have been discussed..
and angelfire,jus becoz we havent found out atlantis,doesnt mean that it doesnt exist..it may have bn dere..we have to keep in mind,that its only natural that we still havent uncovered it..bcz after almost 10,000 years of its existence,if we did find it,then that wud have been a miracle,that too without any real documents or tools to properly guide us to it..

tomorrow,i'll post the article on the locations of atlantis..so long frnds..cheers!!

ANGELFIRE said...

@ ispirare
was it libya or egypt from where solon got his information? also, by Peter James's theory, it could be that egypt was mistakenly interpreted for Tantalis.

Ispirare said...

@ angelfire
actually,diff sources tell a diff tale.some say it was libya,some say it was egpt.so i really dnt knw for sure..but as for the tantalis thingie..tomorrow i will post an aritcle on the peter james location..v cn have a discussion after dat..